i think that we, we work to not let this go over the cliff. i think we do it because what i did it because it's the right policy to not let it happen, but we also, the economy and americans and investors and consumers -- >> that's the question. you believe the economy -- that's what, okay, goes to a little bit. do you believe the economy could withstand the effect of allowing bush tax cuts to expire for all americans? >> well, i think, again, you know that's not all the discussion. the fiscal cliff, the amt, they would affect 27 million american families, a lot of taxpayers who aren't supposed to have amt. or other parts of this. so i think when you about the concern, it's not actually really the tax break. i don't buy that at all. i don't think we, we need to increase tax rates. spent if you go over on the tax rates go up on everyone and amt and the dividend and capital gains, all of that -- >> again, i don't think we should do. i think we should dissolve this but i think that, it depends on whether they do something about in the next month o